{"id":954,"date":"2017-04-14T15:56:37","date_gmt":"2017-04-14T15:56:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=954"},"modified":"2019-06-22T19:48:34","modified_gmt":"2019-06-22T19:48:34","slug":"toddington-lane","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=954","title":{"rendered":"Toddington Lane"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The\u00a0general assumption in the past has been that, if a direct route from Wigan to Ribchester did exist, the alignment would likely be up Wigan Lane, turning either down Chorley Road\u00a0or Leyland Mill Lane. The latter is a more direct route, heading through Red Rock and Arley and on towards Adlington Common. However a route on the east side of Wigan through Whelley and Haigh\u00a0is worth considering as it avoids a difficult double crossing of the River Douglas. The Roman road to\u00a0Manchester, which crossed the Douglas at the bottom of Millgate,\u00a0is well accepted and a road to Ribchester could have branched off from this heading northeast towards Haigh. This route\u00a0could have followed a straight line foot path which is known locally as the Wash Path. This\u00a0path is more or less in alignment with the Haigh Road which in turn, lines up with Toddington Lane.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/New-Springs-to-Haigh-1849.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-956 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/New-Springs-to-Haigh-1849.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"490\" height=\"626\" \/><\/a>This alignment certainly is old, as attested by the fact that it corresponds with the ancient boundary between the Salford and West Derby Hundreds. It changes direction at Toddingtons farm where the road turns\u00a0into a farm track. This\u00a0is a\u00a0high point where\u00a0it is assumed there would have been a\u00a0realignment to return to the\u00a0original direct route. The farm track was in fact the original main road out towards Blackrod before Riley Lane was built in the early 19<sup>th<\/sup> century.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone3a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1679\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone3a.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone3a.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone3a-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone3a-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone3a-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a> A supposed broken milestone\u00a0lies on the east side of this section about a third the way down. Mrs Pendlebury, who lives on the farm at Toddingtons, has always suspected this and the road to be Roman.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040005a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-957\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040005a.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040005a.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040005a-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040005a-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040005a-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=968\">Mrs Pendlebury&#8217;s Milestone<\/a> &#8211; In March 2017 we were invited by Mrs P to visit the site and\u00a0see the damage inflicted on the stone in the 1970&#8217;s when it was hit by an excavator travelling down the lane. On inspection, we soon realised that it wasn\u2019t Roman (these tend to be circular in section) and it probably wasn&#8217;t even a milestone. It didn&#8217;t look\u00a0Medieval either as these tend to be square in section and mounded in a base. However Mrs P was quite keen for us to investigate further, so we decided we would return at a future date to have a closer look. As it happened we ended up staying there all summer. You can find details of our investigations <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=968\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>At the time we also visited the Wash Path which lead down the side of St David&#8217;s Church in Haigh. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040004a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-958\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040004a.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040004a.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040004a-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040004a-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/P1040004a-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a>David Ratledge had supplied us with a LiDAR image of the area which showed what appeared to be parallel ditches running along the length of the path. Our visit was to see if we could detect these on the ground.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/haigh-lidar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-959\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/haigh-lidar.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1419\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/haigh-lidar.jpg 1419w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/haigh-lidar-300x228.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/haigh-lidar-768x585.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/haigh-lidar-1024x779.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/haigh-lidar-394x300.jpg 394w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1419px) 100vw, 1419px\" \/><\/a>Despite intensive searching we couldn\u2019t find any sign of these ditches, but looking closer at the 1849 map we can see that the current path has moved further to the east. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-961\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"770\" height=\"528\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path.png 770w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path-300x206.png 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path-768x527.png 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path-438x300.png 438w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 770px) 100vw, 770px\" \/><\/a>The likelihood is therefore that the easterly ditch on the LiDAR is probably the remnant of the earlier path but still no explanation for the westerly ditch which we couldn\u2019t even detect on the ground. At the end of 2018 we took some photos from our drone but still no sign of the lines shown on the LiDAR (could they be due to marks in the tall grass left by a tracker?).<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path-dronea.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1678\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path-dronea.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path-dronea.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path-dronea-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path-dronea-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Wash-Path-dronea-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a>\u00a0Looking at the south end of the Wash Path where the New Wash Coal Pit was located, we suspect\u00a0that there has been significant re-landscaping. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/New-Wash-Coal-Pit-.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-960\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/New-Wash-Coal-Pit-.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"1016\" height=\"626\" \/><\/a>On the 1849 map we see a track projecting from the site of the pit south towards Wigan but this totally disappears on later maps and nothing of it can be seen on the ground. This can be explained by the fact that a bridge was built over the railway line for Higher Lane, which is the road leading into Haigh Hall grounds. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wash-pit-house-map.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-962\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wash-pit-house-map.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2434\" height=\"2074\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wash-pit-house-map.jpg 2434w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wash-pit-house-map-300x256.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wash-pit-house-map-768x654.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wash-pit-house-map-1024x873.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wash-pit-house-map-352x300.jpg 352w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2434px) 100vw, 2434px\" \/><\/a>This required an embankment which has obliterated all signs of the track projecting from the pit. Nothing can be detected further south but if it did continue is assumed it would line up with the Whelley Road.<\/p>\n<p>Looking north from Toddington Lane, there is an alignment with the Lane at Little Scotland on the east side of Blackrod. However there is nothing obvious beyond that although the alignment does point towards Babylon Lane in Adlington where another realignment would put it back on to the general alignment towards Ribchester. This would lead it between the hills of Anglezarke and Healey Nab on the west side of Rivington Reservoirs and on through White Coppice towards Ribcheaster. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone2a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1680\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone2a.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone2a.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone2a-300x244.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone2a-768x624.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Toddington-Lane-Drone2a-369x300.jpg 369w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a>In November 2017 we carried out a\u00a0geophysics survey on the alignment in a field adjacent to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=1252\">Dark Lane<\/a> to the west of Blackrod, but failed to find any evidence for the road. You can see details of our investigations <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=1252\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In 2019 we returned to Toddington Lane to finish off some loose ends i.e. could we find evidence of the old road on the other side of the farm track and also could we find evidence of the well marked on the 1949 OS map.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Field-Layout-1849-road-overlay.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1686\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Field-Layout-1849-road-overlay.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1322\" height=\"991\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Field-Layout-1849-road-overlay.png 1322w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Field-Layout-1849-road-overlay-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Field-Layout-1849-road-overlay-768x576.png 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Field-Layout-1849-road-overlay-1024x768.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Field-Layout-1849-road-overlay-400x300.png 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1322px) 100vw, 1322px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nYou can see details of our investigations <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=1683\">here<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The\u00a0general assumption in the past has been that, if a direct route from Wigan to Ribchester did exist, the alignment would likely be up Wigan Lane, turning either down Chorley Road\u00a0or Leyland Mill Lane. The latter is a more direct &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=954\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"parent":647,"menu_order":1,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-954","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/954","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=954"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/954\/revisions"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/647"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=954"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}