{"id":125,"date":"2012-09-02T21:42:56","date_gmt":"2012-09-02T21:42:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=125"},"modified":"2024-04-01T14:46:06","modified_gmt":"2024-04-01T13:46:06","slug":"roman-road-north-of-wigan-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=125","title":{"rendered":"Roman Road between Wigan and Walton-le-Dale"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This particular Road leading north out of Wigan through Standish and on to Walton-le-Dale (<strong>Margary 70c<\/strong>) was first investigated by the Wigan Archaeological Society in the early 1980&#8217;s. The initial investigations centered around the accounts given by W Thompson Watkin (Roman Lancashire 1883 p.66-69) who was able to trace the Road in the late 19th century in the Wigan area as far as Standish. However he could find little evidence himself of the Road north of Standish, relying heavily on previous sightings such as Sibson&#8217;s who claimed he could trace the road &#8220;<em>from Standish through Welch Whithill (or Whittle) to Euxton Burgh&#8221;.\u00a0<\/em> Another reported sighting, said to be 13 yards wide and &#8220;<em>about a quarter of a mile to the north-north-east of Euxton&#8221;,<\/em> pointed it towards the park at Worden Hall (this must surely mean the wood near Worden Old Hall which was on the east side of the A49). Watkin goes on to describe further reports of sightings leading through Bamber Bridge and on to the Ribble crossing south of Preston.<\/p>\n<p>For many years this was the excepted route i.e. a road called Meanygate (or Mainway Gate on early maps) in Bamber Bridge, lining up with a straight line path through Cinder Wood near Cuerden Hall and on south towards Old Worden Hall (which still exist by the way next to the main road through modern Buckshaw village). However excavations in 1996 at <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/south-ribble.co.uk\/srmuseum\/pages\/heritage\/09_walton_le_dale\/09_walton.htm\">Walton-le-Dale<\/a><\/strong> revealed a remarkable section of the road which dramatically changed the picture as it pointed, not towards Bamber Bridge, but Leyland.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1444\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Walton-le-Dale4a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1444\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1444\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Walton-le-Dale4a.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"583\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Walton-le-Dale4a.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Walton-le-Dale4a-300x219.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Walton-le-Dale4a-768x560.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Walton-le-Dale4a-412x300.jpg 412w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1444\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Roman Road at Walton-le-Dale &#8211; Copyright &#8211; Wigan Archaeological Society<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This well defined section of road seemed to line up with Todd Lane, Stanifield Lane and on towards Euxton, lining up pretty well with Wigan Road (i.e. the A49) as it passes through Euxton village.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1393\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/walton-south-map.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1393\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1393\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/walton-south-map.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"698\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/walton-south-map.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/walton-south-map-300x262.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/walton-south-map-768x670.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/walton-south-map-344x300.jpg 344w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1393\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image courtesy of David Ratledge (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.twithr.co.uk\/lancs-gm\/M70c.htm\">Roman Roads in Lancashire<\/a>)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This alignment was confirmed in 2018 by excavations by Salford Archaeology in advance of a proposed new development site south of the M65 terminus. A 50 metre long section of the road was discovered in a field on the east side of <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=1394\">Stanifield lane<\/a><\/strong> and showed it to be over 11 metres wide and in remarkably good condition. It was made of rammed cobbles and cambered on each site (no surface gravel metalling). On the east side there was a well defined \u2018V\u2019 shaped ditch but the west side had been truncated by modern activity (you can see more details <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=1394\">here<\/a><\/strong> &#8211; see also <a href=\"https:\/\/archaeology.co.uk\/articles\/news\/roman-road-unearthed-in-lancashire.htm#:~:text=During%20their%20excavation%2C%20the%20team,to%20a%20length%20of%2018m.\">Current Archaeology No.349<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Research in the Wigan Area.<\/strong><br \/>\nBesides Watkin, another early reference to the line of the Road in the Wigan area is the <strong>One Inch OS Map<\/strong> which was first published between 1842 and 1844. A section of this\u00a0 map north of Wigan (see below) shows the road as a continuation of Mesnes Street, crossing the railway line at a point where a factory is indicated. The line is then shown crossing the Wigan boundary at Brimelow farm and on past Brockhurst to Round Moor Farm. Here the line ends where the track from Round Moor to Wakefield&#8217;s farm crosses it. Curiously this line, from Wigan town centre to Round Moor, is not shown on the Six Inch OS Map of 1849 or any other later edition.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1st-Edit-one-inch-OS-map.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-322 aligncenter\" title=\"1st Edit one inch OS map\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1st-Edit-one-inch-OS-map.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"511\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1st-Edit-one-inch-OS-map.gif 511w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1st-Edit-one-inch-OS-map-255x300.gif 255w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 511px) 100vw, 511px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In his account, Watkin relates to the road being <em>&#8220;first detected &#8230; by a Ralph Thicknesse &#8230; in a field called <strong>Beggar&#8217;s Walk<\/strong> near <strong>Ryland&#8217;s factory<\/strong>. The railway from Wigan to Preston crossed it at this point&#8221;<\/em>. Watkin also quotes Sibson as finding the road <em>&#8220;in the bleaching crofts near <strong>Ryland&#8217;s factory<\/strong> in the valley at the north-east end of Wigan Mains (Mesnes) and in the next field near the footroad on the east side of the Mains&#8221;<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ryland&#8217;s factory<\/strong> (or Mill) was built by Mr. Ryland&#8217;s in the early 19th century and should not be confused with the later Ryland&#8217;s factory (now derelict but last used by the Wigan &amp; Leigh College) which is located on the north side of Mesnes Park. The original Ryland&#8217;s Mill was located further north-east on the other side of the railway in an area now occupied by a small housing estate off Barnsley Street. This places the road on the line indicated on the One Inch OS Map.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Beggar&#8217;s Walk<\/strong> refers to a field bounded by a track of the same name. This track appears on the Six Inch OS Map of 1849 (see below) and is shown leading north from the old Ryland&#8217;s Mill, turning sharply eastward towards in the area where Spencer Road crosses the railway. Beggar&#8217;s Walk is then shown continuing on the other side of the railway leading towards Wigan Lane just south of the Cherry Gardens pub. The field bounded by the Walk on the west side of the railway shows an alignment of field boundaries which coincide more or less with the line shown on the One Inch OS map.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1849-OS-map.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2005\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1849-OS-map.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"789\" height=\"665\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Watkin goes on to say that he found the road <em>&#8220;in a field called <strong>Patten Hey<\/strong>&#8220;<\/em> to the north-east of Beggar&#8217;s Walk. He describes it as <em>&#8220;being 14 yards in width, and a yard in depth, formed of gravel, with blocks of yellow-coloured freestone&#8221;<\/em>. This is a remarkable description as roads of this width are usually associated routes connecting major settlements in the Roman Empire.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Patten Hey<\/strong> does not appear on the Wigan Tithe Apportionments and Map of 1838 and despite strenuous effort we have so far been unable to identify it on any other map of the area. However it is likely to be in the area where the Milliken factory (previously Tupperware and ROF) is located on the north side of Spencer Road.<\/p>\n<p>From Patten Hey Watkin describes the road forming <em>&#8220;a <strong>cart-road to Standish<\/strong>, proceeding through the middle of <strong>Old Meadow Field<\/strong>, and along the side of the next one to <strong>Barn Hey<\/strong>, where it was discoverable, and the line of its gravel and stones marking its progress up the hill to Standish&#8221;<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cart-road to Standish<\/strong>. On the One Inch OS Map and on the later Six Inch Map there is a road shown going NNW from the Wigan border at Brimlow which meets a road leading east from Brockhurst at right angles. The road from Brockhurst carries on for a short distance before turning sharply northwards towards Round Moor farm (this road is also shown quite prominently on the <strong>Standish Estate map of 1763<\/strong>\u00a0which appears in Porteus&#8217; &#8220;History of Standish&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>The stretch between Brimlow and the Brockhurst road is on the right alignment but the section heading towards Round Moor farm is neither straight nor on the alignment. Both these stretches are not now visible on the ground and do not appear on any later maps of the area. The road from Brockhurst, instead of turning north, now continues in a straight line towards Boar&#8217;s Head where it comes out near the present day cemetery entrance. The present day road from Brimlow to the Brockhurst road, which is a continuation of Gidlow Lane, runs parallel to the old road about seventy metres to the east of it. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1849-OS-map1.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2007\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1849-OS-map1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"642\" height=\"844\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Old Meadow Field<\/strong>. The Standish Estate map of 1763 has an Old Meadow just to the north of Round Moor farm but it is not certain this the the field referred by Watkin.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barn Hey<\/strong>. This name appears a number of times on the Standish Estate map but none specifically on the perceived alignment. It is curious to know why Watkin selects just these field names and no others. We can only assume that, as he was writing over a hundred years after the 18th century Enclosure Acts which gave the names to these fields, perhaps only some of the names had survived into the mid nineteenth century.<\/p>\n<p>Watkin goes on to talk about the road through Standish running <em>&#8220;slightly to the west of the Church&#8221;<\/em>. However it is our suggestion that the line most probably changed direction at Prospect Hill which is the highest point in Standish. Passing the Church on the East side. The line would then align with Hic Bibi Lane on the Standish Coppull border where Chorley\u00a0 Archaeological Society found evidence of the road in excavations in the field adjacent to Coppull Moor Lane in the 1963 (Tom Rigby) and 1984 (Jack Smith).<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Roman-Road-North-of-Wigan.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2004\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Roman-Road-North-of-Wigan.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"1031\" height=\"1425\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Brimelow Farm.<\/strong> Over the years ours Society have carried out a number investigations in the two fields at Brimelow including geophysical surveys and excavations. In 1988 our excavation found evidence for the road in the north field showing it to be about 8 metres wide composed of compacted river cobbles with a possible ditch on the west side. In 2004 we confirmed the alignment by finding further evidence in the south field (as reported in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/content\/News_Letters\/news075.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Newsletter 75<\/a>). This time the road appeared to be 9 metres wide but no roadside ditches could be detected. You can see full details of our 2004 investigations <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=1265\">here<\/a>.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/West-Sectionlooking-north.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/West-Sectionlooking-north.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1280\" height=\"960\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/West-Sectionlooking-north.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/West-Sectionlooking-north-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/West-Sectionlooking-north-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/West-Sectionlooking-north-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/West-Sectionlooking-north-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ground Penetrating Radar.<\/strong> At the time we struggled to detect the road in the south field (despite many attempts) using our resistivity equipment. However in 2016 we were able to get access to GPR equipment and so returned to Brimlow to see if it could detect the road where we knew it existed thus proving its effectiveness of this prospecting tool. The result was a success and we were also able to detect other features away from the alignment and the farmer Roy Brandon has kindly allowed us to investigate these too (using this equipment the we able to successfully detect a section of road for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wyrearchaeology.org.uk\/index.php\/digs\/garstang-roman-road\">Wyre group<\/a> near Garstang\u00a0 &#8211;\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/content\/News_Letters\/news195.htm\">Newsletter195<\/a>). You can see details of our 2016 survey at Brimelow Farm <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=918\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here\u00a0 \u00a0<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>GM Festival of Archaeology.<\/strong> In 2018 we got the chance to investigate the anomalies we had detected with more excavations as part of this yearly festival. The features away from the alignment proved to be nothing more than recent disturbance but test pits on the alignment once again exposed the road. This time the road proved to be 10 metres wide but, as with the 2004 excavation, no side ditches could be detected. You can see details of our 2018 excavations <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=1372\">here\u00a0<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Standish Wood Lane.<\/strong>\u00a0Further north Thomas Codrington favoured this road in his book \u201c<em>Roman Roads in Britain<\/em>\u201d. On what evidence he does not say but this old road is a popular choice with many historians. It is unarguably an ancient track as there are three Medieval cross bases located along its route. Recently Edmund Wadelove (<em>Britannia XXXII\u00a02001<\/em>) cites this route because of its alignment with the known Roman road from Wigan to Warrington that runs south of Wigan on the other side of the Douglas valley. Wadelove concludes that Standish is the Roman settlement of Coccium (however this was before the discovery of the Roman bathhouse in the centre of Wigan). It is quite understandable, when examining this route on the ground, why historians have been attracted to it, as it is quite straight and follows a natural ridge south out of Standish.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1433\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Standish-Wood-Lane-Strickland-House.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1433\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Standish-Wood-Lane-Strickland-House.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Standish-Wood-Lane-Strickland-House.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Standish-Wood-Lane-Strickland-House-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Standish-Wood-Lane-Strickland-House-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Standish-Wood-Lane-Strickland-House-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1433\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Looking south along Standish Wood Lane as it passes Strickland House<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Along a portion of its length, however, the road turns into a 4 metre deep hollow way which suggests a medieval origin (one of the Medieval cross bases is located part way along this section &#8211; adding credence to this suggestion). If, however, we consider the hollow way section to have been a later addition to alleviate the steep slope at that particular point, it is still possible to imagine this route as being the original Roman alignment (the route into Wigan via Brimelow Farm being a later diversion). To check this theory, in 2009 and 2010 the Wigan Arch Soc carried out fieldwork in this area including two resistivity surveys in fields either side of Lower <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=119\">Standish Wood Fold<\/a><\/strong> (now called Speckled Holly) on the projected line. The results however were negative. The lack of pottery in the south filed suggests it was not cultivated until recent times, which would give more chance for the road to survive if it was there. Our only conclusion is that, from these results, the road did not cross these fields and therefore Standish Wood Lane is unlikely to have been the Roman road. You can see details of our investigations <a title=\"Standish Wood Lane Investigation\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=119\"><strong>here<\/strong>\u00a0<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Row High Wood.<\/strong> In 2016 a section of the road just north of Coppull was suggested by David Ratledge after examining LiDAR images of the area. \u00a0To check this out we visited the site and you can see details of what we found\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=915\">here<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This particular Road leading north out of Wigan through Standish and on to Walton-le-Dale (Margary 70c) was first investigated by the Wigan Archaeological Society in the early 1980&#8217;s. The initial investigations centered around the accounts given by W Thompson Watkin &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/?page_id=125\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"parent":420,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-125","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/125","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=125"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/125\/revisions"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/420"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=125"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}